The Trust Artist, Olaf Lewitz, along with his partner, Christine Neidhardt, are gearing ready for their upcoming TrustTemenos Certified Agile Leadership trainings. Certified Agile Leadership trainings are a new, advanced level of training classes being offered through the Scrum Alliance. In this interview Olaf and I discuss the reason for his TrustTemenos CAL class, how it can help people become better Agile leaders, and the value of Certified Agile Leadership.
Safety is a very hot topic in the Agile space right now. During our conversation about safety, Olaf shared one of the most powerful things I have heard during an interview this year:
“When you talk to people about trust, it rises. When you talk to people about safety, they get scared.”
Every conversation I have with Olaf leaves me more aware and (I hope) a bit smarter than I was when it began. I hope you will get as much value from listening to this as I did from recording the conversation.
And you can find links to Olaf’s upcoming classes and events, as well as his contact info, below the show notes.
00:07 Podcast Intro
01:57 An overview of Agile Leadership Training
04:48 A skeptical response to the idea of Agile Leadership Training and Olaf’s response
07:16 Developing a thinking model to understand what we need and how that drives our actions
09:11 The power of metaphor in leadership and Dave’s aversion to boats
11:03 Giving people tools to grow their awareness of how they show up
11:34 These classes cover advanced leadership topics - not the basics
12:16 “If you trust in yourself… you will still get beaten by people”
13:05 Skepticism is an important part of any class and any transition
13:32 It’s about being intentional and aware
15:23 There is a specific type of learning that involves being uncomfortable because what you believe is challenged
15:57 Extending the question of leadership beyond work and helping them understand more about their awareness and intention
17:00 Olaf shares a story about his first experience working as a boss
21:29 The advice Olaf about give his 29 year-old self about being a boss for the firs time
22:23 It’s okay to ask for help
24:05 A question about safety and what it means to create a safe space
25:42 When you talk to people about trust, it rises, when you talk to people about safety, they get scared
27:22 What is Certified Agile Leadership Training? What level of knowledge experience do you need to attend?
28:08 What will CAL training do for a leader/manager in an Agile organization?
29:28 Where to learn more about Olaf’s upcoming classes, where you can see him speak and how to get in touch with him if you have questions.
Links from the Podcast
Showing Up - the book written by Olaf and Christine https://leanpub.com/showingup
TrustTemenos Leadership Academy: https://trusttemenos.de
Upcoming CAL Trainings - https://trusttemenos.de/certified-agile-leadership-cal1/
Olaf’s session at the 2017 Scrum Gathering San Diego is called: Product Owner: Mapping Dramas and Dreams and it will be held in the Harbor Island 1 room on Monday, April 10 from 1 PM until 2:15 PM For more info on the Scrum Gathering: https://www.scrumalliance.org/sgcal
A few weeks ago Don Kim put up a blog post challenging the value of certifications. I reached out to Don in hopes of doing an interview about it and found out he’s also written a new book “I think Therefore I Plan”. In this interview we discuss the pros and cons of different certifications, taking an artisan approach to managing projects as well as Don’s new book.
You can find Don’s book here: http://amzn.to/2n7VEHu
You can find Don’s blog post about certifications here: http://bit.ly/2okDUZA
00:07 Interview Start
00:30 What is a Human APEE
03:38 What is an Artisan approach to Project Management
05:15 Don’s Philosophy of Project Management
07:22 Trying to slow down and do less
08:21 Don explains his way of approaching project work and the reason for the book
10:56 How has the traditional vs. Agile debate changed over the past few years
12:53 Seeing the value in every project you work on - regardless of how you got it
16:15 The downside of certifications
17:29 The positive aspects of certifications
18:03 There is more to project management training than just PMP certification
19:48 Making the case for the value certifications can provide and how it can be misunderstood
23:22 Does it make sense for people to want to have a way of gauging their professional achievement?
23:55 What Don expected from PMP certification and how he went deep with the Kerzner to get the most learning out of it (instead of just passing the test)
26:41 Is it the certification that is an issue, or the way people interpret it as an end point rather than a beginning
27:50 An overview of the approach Don’s book takes towards the art of Project Management
30:56 Where you can find Don’s book and how you can reach him with follow up questions
31:54 Podcast Ends
Peter Saddington, the founder of AgileScout.com, is an Agile Coach, Certified Scrum Trainer, Author, Entrepreneur and Scientist. On March 4, 2017 he put up a blog post on AgileScout.com announcing a new experiment he is running... on himself.
Taking a step back from helping others adopt Agile, Peter is now using Agile to transform his life, and he's starting with his career. He's going from being a full time Agile Consultant to a full time professional video game player. It might sound a bit insane, but his reasoning and research are sound. In this interview I got the chance to talk with Peter about his new experiment, why he's doing it and how he approaching transforming his life.
This podcast features an interview with two educators from Grandview Prep in Boca Raton, FL. Aileen Palmer and Susan Rose have been working with the Scrum Alliance, John Miller and Mike Vizdos to help the school implement Scrum for both the students and school administration. The interview explains how Scrum got started at Grandview, the impact it has had on the students, as well as the benefits and challenges they’ve experienced along the way.
01:16 Interview Begins
02:01 How Grandview Prep got interested in Scrum
04:59 Agile can be a lot easier for kids than adults
05:52 How Scrum has changed the way the students at Grandview collaborate
06:32 How the kids self-organize to make sure everyone is participating in the work
06:59 How teaching Scrum to a junior in high school impacts their ability to get work done and prepare for college
07:54 How visualizing the work is helping the students understand how to break work down into manageable pieces
08:35 Teaching students and teachers about how to break down the work and plan things out
10:20 Differences between how 1st graders and older kids are using Scrum at Grandview
11:17 The hardest parts of getting started with Scrum in school
13:17 Sometimes the transparency and seeing how much you have to do is overwhelming for adults
14:03 The struggle between Trello and Post-its
14:59 Student rankings and grading at Grandview - and how it has been impacted by Scrum
17:14 How using Scrum has improved the students and teachers ability to give and receive feedback
17:45 The reaction from parents/stakeholders to the introduction of Scrum at Grandview Prep
20:28 What Scrum means for the quiet kids who like to sit back and let others lead and drive the work
21:30 How will Grandview measure success to determine if/how Scrum is helping
22:33 The support Grandview Prep received from the Scrum Alliance
23:14 Advice for educators who are interested in learning more or trying to implement it at their school
24:39 How to get in touch with Susan and Aileen to learn more about Scrum at Grandview Prep
26:10 Wrap up
26:48 Podcast End
For more information:
Grandview Prep Info and Contacts
Scrum Alliance Info and Contacts
The Agilistocrats hold their 2016 Retrospective!
Maria Matarelli, Richard Cheng, Dhaval Panchal and Dave Prior reflect on the year by and sharing their answers to a few questions about 2016:
1. What is the most valuable thing you learned this year?
2. What area of Agile are you most curious about or hopeful for in 2017?
3. What are you going to do differently in 2017?
4. What advice do you have for others as we head towards the new year?
Here are some links from the podcast
Growing Agile… Not Scaling - the article that Dhaval and Andrea Tomasini co-authored for InfoQ www.infoq.com/articles/growing-agile
Greek Hoplites en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoplite
Agile Certified Leadership Training in Chicago agileleadershipchicago.com
If you’d like to get in touch with any of the Agilistocrats, you can find them with the information below.
Have an amazing New Year!!